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Hi,
I just want other like minded Boating enthusiasts to know what experience I have had with a boating charter company in the Norfolk Broads.

Barnes Brinkscraft

I have visited the Norfolk broads many times with my growing family and always enjoyed it.

We decided to hire a boat for our well earned break and although other companies had been good we thought we would try Barnes Brinkcraft. (This was my first mistake and one that ruined my break!)

Having collecting our not very well looked after boat and paying my deposit of £100 (This is to ensure that everything is returned as you collected it) I was but half an hour down stream when the engine died on me. I rang a disgruntled Barnes Brinkcraft member of staff, who obviously thought blame lay at my door, who agreed to have someone come out to us. An hour later someone decided to make the 2 minute journey to see what was wrong with the boat only to find that the boat had been sent out without fuel.

The member of staff shriugged and did not know why but said buy some fuel from the station I had stalled at, keep the reciept and I will be reinbursed. (Yeah right!) I also informed him that the heater on board was broken and I had small children and a heater was important, he said he could rush home and see if he had one I could borrow, (Which he kindly did!).

I put £50 of fuel in and was told that would be sufficent for my 4 day break. By now the first day of my 4 day break was over and we had done little other than Breakdown wait for an engineer, fuel up, thaw out and have dinner. Oh well 3 days left.

These boats have no fuel guage, you have a stick, which I confess I did not use and check as I was told £50 would last me a week and I was only hiring the boat for 4 days.

On Day three while heading back up stream, (we had to get close to our pick up point as the boat had to be back for 10.00 am in the morning.) the boat decided to stall again, it was Sunday evening I rang a very angry boat owner who said that we had disturbed his day off, he would see if someone would come out.

Someone eventualy did (A different chap) and informed us that we had run out of fuel. I said we can't have as I have put £50 in and was told it could not possibly use that amount in 4 days. He said that you certainly can get through that amout and I have.

By this time I was pretty angry as our third day had been cut short, it was Sunday and no fuel stations were open, this is not my fault I said to the quite sympathetic man. I said if this boat had been fuelled as it should have been prior to me collecting it, all this would never have happened, I have done exactly as I have been instructed to in purchasing fuel on day 1 and here we are again on Day 3, should I have been told to put more in on Day 1 I would have done.

He said he was very sorry and to moor up until the morning when the fuell depot 100 yards away would open fuel up there at 9.00 am keep your reciept to be rinbursed, and head back. I said well obviously the boat will be back late in that case as I have another 3 hours drive upstream.

Well that is our fault just get the boat back as soon as you can he said.

9.00 am I put £75 in fuel into the boat and head back.

The next day, Monday 12.00 mid day I arrive back at Barnes Brinkcraft to a furious boat yard owner.

He demands I leave the vessel immediately, I am late returning his boat, I have messed all his staff around all weekend, he blindly insists the boat was fueled prior to departure, that he would not give me my deposit back, and that under no circumstances would he pay me for the fuel I had put in. I was stuck for Words! My jaw just dropped in disbelief.

I said that the £1200 I had paid him for the boat included fuel and that his staff had assured me I would be reimbursed for the fuell I had put in the boat.

This post is not about revenge on a very bad boat yard, merely to make sure anyone who realy loves boating never has to experience what I went through. I have to say that I have never returned to the Broads as the whole affair left sucha bad tast in my Mouth.

With regards to Barnes Brinkscraft I amazed how they ever get re booked, their boats are very shoddy, and they have little regard for the comfort of their customers.

If you are thinking of the Broads avoid Branes Brinkcraft!!!

Regards
Adam Ward-Best
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Not the Adam Ward-Best of e-media solutions spamming fame I hope

Sorry to hear of your spoilt holiday though, it is bad enough when things go wrong but it is always much worse when it is not resolved.
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LOL,

I never realised that my reputation precedes me.

I prefer to call it email marketing but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Have you received one of my marketing emails and if so what is the company name so I can look it up in our Database? if not Where did you draw reference from?

It was a rather rotten holiday I have to say.

Regards
Adam
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I did some digging a while back into "email" marketing, and when I saw your post the name seemed familiar so I did a Google on it and there you were listed on the www.antespam.co.uk/hiring-a-spammer site, which must be where I had seen your name.

No I have to many filters in place for such emails to get through to me
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Oh Right,

So are you the authority on Brewing Real Traditional Ales then?

As I have done the same >

Or is that a different Marc Ollosson.

I wouldn't mind a free copy as I have been known to enjoy a pint or 2.

Regards
Adam
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That's me

Free???? Free???? steady on my old son, a chap has to make a living you know
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Any one else aware of the public staithe that was once on the end of the Rhond in Wroxham.?I was told that the Brinkhof yard just quayheaded over it. Pity public staithes don't just expire ane need an Act of Parliament to remove them. OF
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Yes you are right

There is one at Brundall as well
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Talking of Barnes Brinkcraft reminds me that the wretched Broads Bill started there.

Interestingly at the time of the Breakaway V accident there was a great bally-hoo about the weight of the occupants. Do you remember? The then Broads Authority safety expert told us within a day or two that it was all because they were overweight and that the standard for the EU Recreational Craft Directive was wrong. Everyone is getting fatter and it ought to be 85kg they said.
Well we are now five years on, a draft code for hire boats has been published, our experts have sat in judgement on the stability of boats and guess what - the standard measurement is still 75 and not 85kg.
Did the Broads Authority make any representation about it in their recent submission to the MCA or were they just wrong?
Did the Navigation Committee say nothing about it or was it not pointed out to them?
Do we care?
Apparently not; more legislation will solve it.
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I seem to remember being told that the expert was also a crew member on a certain tempestuous river cruiser?
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Thought I was on a different forum for a moment Adam...

You say you 'have never returned' to the Broads... So, when exactly did all this happen? Only, I was on the Broads two weeks ago and have never returned since - but that's not quite what you mean is it?
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I think you'll find it's a parish staithe and its about where Barnes Brinkcraft have installed their gantry.
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One little point re Adams posting.I just wonder how many hirers bother to check the amount of fuel in the tank when taking the boat over.The second point is that boat yards suggest that you cruise for a minimum of 4 hrs.daily inorder to charge the batteries.Depending on the boat and tide you would most probably be using 4-5 gallons per day,roughly 30 gallons a week.I make that about £120. To say that
£40 would easily cover a 4 day break seems a bit odd to me.John
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codpiece wrote:
I seem to remember being told that the expert was also a crew member on a certain tempestuous river cruiser?


I'm guessing that wasn't Whelpton's Hurricane or Tornado.

Mustn't allow the comment from beneath The Black Brim to pass without due thought. How many more public staithes have suffered blocking of public rights by physical development, or just neglect? Boaters should be regularly accessing all the old staithes to keep them open.

Legally, I believe that they remain open unless someone can get statute law passed to close them. That would have to be for good reason. So if no statutory instrument has been concocted to effect closure, then a right of access remains.

Use them or lose them.

GF
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One that springs to mind - mentioned in Hamilton's - is the staithe at the end of Acle Dyke, now taken over and let to private owners. I collected a right earful a couple of years ago when I had the temerity to moor there on an unoccupied mooring overnight - and bring good business to a nearby local hostelry. The earful was from the landlord(?) rather than the tenant of the mooring.

The failure to uphold the ancient rights of the general population is a black mark against the Authority that was created to, amongst other things, "protect the interests of navigation" (c.f. Norfolk and Suffolk Broads Act 1988). Akin to allowing footpaths to be blocked or obscured. The Ramblers organised mass trespasses. Should we be organising mass moor-overs?

Rather like dredging the Upper Thurne, it seems to have been filed away in Colegate (possibly to be lost in the move to Dragonfly House) under "Problems we hope will go away and don't intend to do anything about".

GR
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