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At the recent Nav Com meeting the cost of the Bill was raised.

A BA officer, whilst seemingly looking straight at one of the petitioners, stated that the cost of petitioning, so far, was put at £50,000.00.

In response I made the point that to blame the petitioners was unfair and that the Authority should accept some responsibility as it was they who had produced a contentious Bill. It will be interesting to see how this is minuted.

Dr Packman, when I pushed him, stated that the cost of the Bill was now anticipated as being up to £200,000.00.

I asked where this was coming from. Dr Packman, as I understood it, stated that the Minister had agreed that £100,000.00 could come out of the DEFRA grant and that the remainder would be charged equally to both the Navigation and the General account.

I then asked if this was capped and both Martin Broom and Dr Packman stated that there is no upper limit.

So £50,000.00, and it could be more, is now to come out of the Navigation Account. Such is the cost of democracy.

The toll increase is recommended at 11% and it was made clear that this was now needed, in part, to pay for the increased costs of the Bill. It was also suggested that there needs to be an 11% increase for three years.

Not good. We are now paying directly for something that we don't want.
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peter waller wrote:
We are now paying directly for something that we don't want.


We've been doing that since 1987, Peter!
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Awwwww, come on, Pete, be fair! Other than this wretched Bill, the Ra, the historic lack of dredging, Jensen's Island, water skiing, the sharp gravel and grit at 24hr moorings, the proliferation of excess notice boards, the Forum and the 2007 tide tables they have done a pretty darned good job.
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That's not what the RSPB says! OF
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But then I am far more charitable than the RSPB, or so it seems.
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peter waller wrote:
At the recent Nav Com meeting the cost of the Bill was raised.

A BA officer, whilst seemingly looking straight at one of the petitioners, stated that the cost of petitioning, so far, was put at £50,000.00.


This just reminds us that the Authority have no concept of their own failings and merely wish to pass the buck.

Thats about right .... and it is what we have come to expect.

You can foresee that this line of punishing tollpayers for the additional costs of this Bill and blaming petitioners will be advanced with increasing regularity now.
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Then, Richard, we shall just have to remind them that it is they, not us, who conceived this unwelcome Bill. Personally I blame just one man for the increasing cost.
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The cost of getting a fairly simple Private Bill primarily concerned with boat safety through Parliament is out of control.

In my view, the fault lies fairly and squarely with the promoters of this Private Bill. They have overcomplicated their Bill and turned what should have been a simple process into a contentious piece of legislation. They've tried to be too clever by half - and coupled this with what can only be described as an unsatisfactory consultation process. Unfortunately, even the Broads Authority has no right to legislation just because it feels like it.

Thanks to a number of factors, only four individuals petitioned the Commons. I am aware that a significantly larger number will petition the Lords - with a disproportionate effect on BA legal costs. The Private Bill may well get through the Lords but at considerable incremental cost and with an increasing amount of egg on the BA corporate face. This too will have a cost.

This Private Bill could swim through, even at this stage, if it were stripped back to a Boat Safety Scheme. From where I'm standing, this approach would seem to be the only way to contain additional legal costs within the time available. I suspect that the Broads Authority position has become too deeply entrenched for this to be an option for current encumbents.
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Sloppy journalism perhaps, but the EDP article this morning describes the "original cost" as £200,000. JP was quoted as saying, "It is this small group of individuals pursuing their own cause that are costing us money and costing tollpayers money."

Au contraire. Jamie's point below needs wider to reach a wider audience. And by the way, Dr P, your grammar could do with a brush up
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Err, whose Bill is it, Dr. Packman? And is it true that you have a QC trying to prove that you can close certain waters?
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Now, if my memory serves me correctly, when the Bill was first mooted at Nav Com the estimated cost was a mere £100,000.00.

Now it is easily going to hit £400,000.00 and probably more. And, typically, the Doctor blames those of us who are petitioning the Bill in the Lords.

Dr Packman, tell us, which came first, this ill conceived Broads Bill, or the considered and easily justifiable opposition?

No, it is not those who are petitioning that are costing the tollpayers money. It is the threat to our common law rights, our heritage and culture, it is your damnable Bill, Dr Packman, that is costing us all.
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